I had the supreme pleasure of chatting with my friend and fellow artist Chet Zar on his podcast “The Dark Art Society” a few weeks back. Chet and I talk about our early days starting out in the Los Angeles “underground’ or “lowbrow” art scene, and what came after, as well as navigating our careers as super shy introverts (pretty common among artists). I had a wonderful time catching up with Chet and learning more about him and his work/process. If you’re not familiar with his incredible work, do yourself a favor and have a look! You can find my episode (270) on YouTube, Spotify or wherever you get your podcasts!

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